Flat File Wikis
Requirements
Individuals should list their requirements, and others should make sub lists with "Accepted/Not Accepted" and any discussion points
Example:
==Fake Requirements== * Full Emoji Support ** Amid: Not Accepted *** You're dumb and bad * No PHP ** Amid: Accepted *** Sane * No Java ** Amid: Accepted *** It's 2024, fuck off with JVMs.
Amid's Requirements
- Uses Markdown or similar "light" language that is easily understood
- No PHP
- No Java
- No Lua
- Can be hosted in light CMS options
- Looks purdy/Modern
- Sane picture/media support
Wulf's Requirements
While markdown is pretty great for most things, I can even see simple html+css going strong. There is a few things that are quality of life that we have now, or would like to get, that I don't know how to achieve. These may only be relevant for a few pages, that may be semi-manual or generative, and could be explicitly using HTML instead of a markdown default, but I don't know how to do this in Markdown.
- W1; Sortable Tables. I am unaware of any way to do this in markdown. This may only be relevant for a few pages, the list of mech overviews
- Amid: Accepted
- I'd completely forgotten about the sortable aspect because I never use that functionality. But you're right that we could just use raw html/css for that - most flat file engines have a way to "escape" the Markdown
- Amid: Accepted
- W2; Embeddable Images. I think there's a few markdown things that play with html tags or ![alt text](image_url). We use these in some guide stuff, and it'd be nice to not loose functionality.
- Amid: Accepted
- No contest, I think we're aligned on that and its just a matter of finding one that makes that easy
- Amid: Accepted
W3; TextTable Loadouts. Instead of updating pictures of the loadouts, generate loadouts in a nice positional layout like in the game. This would save all the storage and traffic, and should make the website more responsive and intuitive to use. I can imagine doing this in markdown with a fake table grid or so, but then hiding empty fields is like a weird extra layout step, and wouldn't know how to do this in markdown.
- Amid: ?
- If I'm understanding you correctly, this could be difficult, but I could also be not understanding you :sweat-smile:
- Amid: ?
BD's Requirements
Final Requirements
To be built as we agree on them
- Sane embeddable media support
- Keep guide functionality as close to current
- Clean interface/code to include them inline
Options So Far
- Bookstack
- highly regarded on r/selfhosted
- Hugo theme: Docsy
- Tabs! Tables! Rich menus!
- So fucking complicated calling it a Hugo theme is really stretching the definition
- Hugo theme: Lotus Docs
- No relation to Lotus Notes
- So fucking sexy
- Obsidian
- needs a frontend for hosting?
- wiki.js
- Needs db? but backs up to flat files? I'm confused
- Further research needed
- docsify.js
- Uuuuuugh fragment based pages, kill me
DokuWiki- PHP
- Not actually flat file? Why does this keep coming up in searches :/
- "Open the install.php file in your browser and follow the instructions" Annnnnd into the bin it goes!
XWiki- Java
PMWiki- PHP
- Ugly as shit
- MkDocs
- TiddlyWiki
- Okay I have spent an hour trying to get my head around this and while I think I got it I don't think its intuitive for us or a user.
- Performance wise tho, this thing is impressive
- Could be convinced, leaving it up
Quiki- "Anyone can read it. Anyone can write it." Bullshit. You invented a Go templating language, immediately ran into problems, then had to write a dedicated section on escaping those problems to write html.
- Absolutely not.
- MDwiki
- No longer maintained?
- FlatNotes
- Hugo theme: Relearn
- Vuepress
Docusaurus- Waayyyy too much npm for my peace of mind
- Facebook owned